greetings Everyone:

The title says it all... I've seen way too much. I've seen IPB 2.3, 3.x, too many incarnations of PHPBB, SMF on so many sites where it shouldn't be, and xenforo looking like crap everywhere else. Then those crappy forums plugins for things like wordpress or joomla... all of it makes me want to cry my eyes out and give up faith in humanity.

What have you seen that makes you want to just throw your hands up?

If enterprise websites and intranets are built on crap software and no one is around to use them, do they still even matter?